RTL Télévision moved to studios at 3, allée Saint-Symphorien, Metz at the end of 1990 to reach the public of Lorraine, but the final parts of the business remained at Villa Louvigny. Stayed at the Lottie Hotel, pardon me. And, they did it for North Korea and the North Koreans may well have said, “We want this and we want that”, as well. Interviewee: George Lang Archive ID 0647 Tape 08. true I can’t. I’ve got a book in there about a South Korean university student who was taken prisoner by the North Koreans and taken, up to North Korea and put in a prison North Korean prison camp. You see I went out early from Korea, back to Japan. Yeah. Yeah. I’ll go overseas. I somehow felt, that, the friendship with those guys, wasn’t the same as what I had, with the guys in the army. It was a waste of, money. No it was a celebration for the end of the war that’s the way I looked at it anyhow. How did, you use the helicopters apart from, evacuating wounded, I mean, where would they go? So they built up the brewery and then, they got sick of it in the end and just walked out and left it all there. Yeah you’d get about three hamburgers out of a tin. I was covered head to foot. And that proved itself in the prison. The officer commanding the unit I was with at Puckapunyal, at the time in ’56, it was in, oh I’m not sure, June I think ’56, called me into his office he said, “You’re being transferred.” He didn’t like me and I didn’t like him. I just thought, here we are in another country. I’m a Life Member of the Korean Veterans Association of Australia. strong about it and just didn’t worry much. So, all of this, builds up, inside you you know and, but, it was the way I took this bloke, to be a prisoner. Me Turk, me Turk.” They didn’t, they wouldn’t surrender. And, at the time, Pusan was the filthiest and smelliest place I have ever, been to. Yeah. He should never have been in Korea. And, the boys were coming and this was the big, the big thing. I didn’t see them. Oh they were good and, I was a pretty keen student too. No just a little bit, need a bit of air in here. He got blown off his motorbike and, the Chinese came towards him and, he got up and wiped the dust off and he looked at them and laughed and went like that. Yeah. And, they called for volunteers throughout different areas of Japan, because our Battalion 3 RAR [3rd Battalion Royal Australian Regiment] was stationed at Hiro, down south near Kure in, Hiroshima. And how would you hide yourselves on patrol? And, of course that upset everything you know. Very frail. Yeah. In fact, one guy, I’ve never met him but I know of him and I’ve spoken to him, he, he married a Japanese girl and, her name was Cherry. But, oh yeah that was pretty sad I guess and it was apart from the war. You go in a boy you come out a man. They were wild men too. It was changed. He’s still alive to the best of my knowledge. I had an Owen gun I didn’t have a rifle. And that’s, how the term police action started and not, that it was a Korean War. Oh well the sound of the shots, obviously. Oh, well, I wasn’t there, when that move came back through Seoul, the last time I mean. In fact, I, was issued with a tunic from World War I. Oh, I hate …, Something like the World War II except it had big flabby pockets sticking out here. But it was very far-fetched. Upon reflection like, years after, have you ever worried, No I had a phone call one day from a Commonwealth doctor, who said, “You were at Maralinga I’m Doctor So and So I’ve got to check a few things out with you.” And, “How do you feel and blah blah blah. Oh they just, hands on the back of their heads. 17:02. And we eventually got issued with American and then British, cold weather equipment. I do remember, blokes going off and seeing photos of them climbing up the broken concrete parts of the bridge. And it was pretty bad at the time and I spent about three months in hospital. Well we were always saying we’d be home for Christmas and, it won’t be long now the peace talks are on but, did little did we know that they’d still be going 50 years later on. But, Olwyn, yeah, she, she’s a lovely lady. I don’t know that it’d ever come to that but, in the, earlier days that may well have been the case yeah. Oh these Australians. But now I suppose if I went back to Tokyo I wouldn’t know it and the people, would be just so, so westernised. Coditel installed a reception station in the Ardennes at Saint Hubert and broadcast a signal from Télé-Luxembourg via cable from Namur, Brutélé which was distributed to the periphery of Liège and Brussels. Yeah. And Mum was always going crook at him and in the end, she signed the papers. There’ll be moaners and groaners who say they should have this and they should have that. Interest. Yeah. What sort of things were you to do or not to do? I was in a march, in 1950, from. And, I would say that, our, repatriation system is the best in the world. Join Facebook to connect with George Lang and others you may know. Oh. Just a bit more sort of general stuff in Korea …. I’ve had it, practically ever since. And they look after us, yeah. From Sydney, yeah. hanging on the arm of an American soldier. Hm. And at Apple Orchard what where the conditions like the environmental conditions like at the time? Yeah. Just on, you mentioned the nurses, what was it like having to fight without women around at that time? That’s a lot of men by God it is. Or mittens I’m not sure which, probably gloves. And on it went. was a lieutenant who joined K Force, you know got his commission again. But they’re the only ones that were there and, oh, it was a, pretty good time and, Navy army and air force all together and, plenty to do, outside of working hours. Well. And to try and stop the war. Just thought they were the enemy, I suppose. Yeah. I mean, what, had your opinion about Communism … ? at that happening. Oh yeah, Mum had her, her card for, food rationing you know like so many teas so much coffee, so much butter and eggs and milk and all the rest of it. Yeah that’s right. No, that, that would have been, yeah about 3 weeks or a little less. Because it became a war of real estate. that’s, you know what a mention in despatches is? And, I would never see another one like it. Late ’45 and then. No. the young, the young national servicemen, see a lot of the British soldiers were national servicemen and they get sent overseas. It. We used to get up on top of a building we’d go and get a hundred Yen in one Yen notes, and throw, them out and watch them, down there all, scattering. But the Turks, oh, they were, they were good soldiers, good fighters and they loved the Australians, oh yeah. I think that might have been my inspiration. It all happened and we were. But, why make yourself get sicker just to get something bigger. And that was, the Second 14th Battalion which was commonly called the Ghost. amazing. ‘Cause I’m 72. And I explain it to them and they still can’t, can’t wear it no they’re. awful or, how many’s that now and, I remember at one place, I think it might have been Chongju too. But I’ll say this, it’s very dangerous over there, with prisoners of war. So she’d probably been eating goannas or something. Well you’re wrong I’m sorry. He was a Second World War guy too. No we all just got along fine. Do you know why it was called police action? No. But some of the sub-branches, out in the districts, suburban, areas, they didn’t. Yeah it’s a pretty sad state of affairs. home. Biographie. And an Italian Medical Unit. I thought he was a mongrel, for doing what he did. they were in the army or navy or air force. Seeing that, bloke I was going to take prisoner get shot, in front of me, right between the eyes. But, quite a number were born in the 1800s. No but the BCOF Hospital it was good and, well organised. And I was answerable. And we, dis-established. a farmer, had some pigs. Well, they had to be put somewhere I think they were sent South. No, I don’t think so. “God what are we in for?” And my mate said to me, “Don’t worry in a couple of weeks we’ll be dodging bullets.” “Oh, thanks,” ohh. And, if anyone got killed they were replaced. Bowing to me and you know, it was a job to them and, they felt very important, doing it for the Occupation Force. And the fact that Max the other brother was in the army too. I’m pretty sure that was where, the Rakkasans, the, American 187th Airborne, were coming down and they were getting shot, by the North Koreans. You just say, “I want to speak to Seagull.” If Seagull was the adjutant. And, it it was great. shame. the Chinese came into it not long after that. It's massive! And every man in that Battalion was, full of respect for him. And they were out there waving and what have you, and, that must have been ’45. And a lot of the guys too. Money. But you couldn’t go there. No. And that happened all the time. that you found it hard to relate to them? I remember him and, the doctor and, oh yeah it was there. Come on, don’t worry. He wanted to go across. Oh, I just take each day as it comes and, don’t even think of them no. But then again. About a few North Koreans, just in the ‘90s, 1990s, executed because they were caught, cutting flesh off, orphans and eating it. Well, we either went on American tanks, or in American trucks, driven by American Negro, soldiers. Oh yeah, yeah. And, he left a wife and seven daughters behind. Colonel Carne. And, we would have to go up and, get into the line with the, with the others firing away, in the company. Their wages were, were shocking. That might have come from, a Japanese name from way, back I’m not sure. Yes and, Miss Lorna Robinson her name was. And that kept the wind out which was the main problem there in the winter the wind. Ken, he didn’t tell us much at all the elder. And she was at the wharf when I went to Korea and waved to mean and, she was there and she came to see me and, when I was able to get around a bit, she took me up to the officers’ mess where the nurses were and took me in there and, oh I thought I was made, being allowed in the. Yeah. But still that’s by the way now. that’s, that’s a, that’s a bit of a funny one. And then, there was a great line of refugees, and yeah they were a big problem in Korea, refugees, coming down the Kapyong Valley. What did you think of this weapon when you saw this? And, then, there was a hotline that the Chinese, had come into it, pardon me, and, they were there to, assist their brothers from North Korea, and there were 800-odd thousand I think. And, they’d, want to come out into no man’s land and pick up their wounded and we’d let them and, they in turn would let us pick our wounded up. Available for pick up in Sth Melbourne. And, I’ve got to think back a bit here because, the wounded came down the hill and they were put, in gutters on the side of the road, so that if a, if a mortar came over, there, say, and exploded, and it’d go right over the top of them and it wouldn’t, injure them further. Simple Returns. $2,300. She was on the plane with me, or I was on the plane with her, and she was returning to Japan after having come back to Australia for leave. Orders were orders and that’s, we were never, sort of, told what the orders were going to be it just happened. I can’t think of how or when. Of course the next morning you might get “Ahoy, come on quick we’re moving, we’re going up North again.”. You know Old Swinnie, yeah. As he walked, sticks and stones went straight through his feet. she married and he was a good guy too. And that was, that was pretty bad, yeah. the, Americans. Oh, well one of their nicknames for an Australian was, I think, gook. And, I guess you think of these things I suppose. What was it like working in this new… working with the British? Whereas Maralinga’s still cordoned off in certain parts. I’m a Life Member, of our association here. And, we got on a train. Now you mentioned, your time in Maralinga? He was a, British Army officer you see, and he came out here to reinvent the wheel. I’ll call her Sumi if you like, “Sumi-san she, she’s a good sort.” And, he went in and sat next to her and she started, stroking his hair and all this sort of thing and, ‘course his, hand started wandering, and then he let out a yell. We only sent troops, to Korea. And, I don’t, I just don’t know but that’s all, that’s just, my thought on the matter. Little by little, the channel created its identity, and marked its difference from the austerity of the national French and Belgian channels. I let them have it. On 26 December 2001, TPS gave the exclusive rights for the satellite broadcast to RTL9 and the channel was then shown on CanalSat. I wasn’t too impressed. And, even Bob Menzies, at the time. Now, I mention this because, where they were on the Imjin River, and our blokes. In 1997, the CLT joined with the German audiovisual group UFA and so controlled production, broadcast, and rights for programmes. And it’s, about from there to there. Leather Goods L10. Something like that. No. Interesting. Oh they reckoned the Aussie hats were the greatest in fact I’ve got an order now, for one, for a guy in America in Indiana he wants me to send him one. From 23 January 1995 to 2 March 1998, RTL9 was wholly owned by CLT SA, which became CLT-UFA SA in 1997. How long was this battle of the Apple Orchard? Didn’t, didn’t see anything like that for Korea I can assure you. And then we were told we were moving down to, Hiro to join 3 RAR, 3 Battalion the Royal Australian Regiment. Oh yeah. And only last year they found another one, when I say 339 killed, they found another one who’d died of wounds. What kind of things were you told about what the North Koreans were like? And she said, “What war were you in?” And I said, “the Korean War” and she, she laughed. It was a, the first big battle you might say. In summer 1996, the television services at Villa Louvigny moved to new premises of the CLT named KB2 (KB1 was the building of the CLT dedicated to radio), built in Kirchberg, Luxembourg. And his surname was Watts, so we called him High-Tension. A proper word and, you’ve got to have a capital A there. And they’ll have a little, fire there called a, I think, an ibachi, and, they use the chopsticks to turn the embers. Ohh. This happened, and it’s in that little book I gave you, or not book or, those papers. Blackwoods, part of Wesfarmers Industrial & Safety (WIS) is a recognized leader in managing design, development and supply chains globally, as such we are committed to working with our supply partners to continuously improve ethical business practices Has this, concept inspired you to get involved? on patrol.” I just, kept my mouth shut and thought how stupid I was hitting him with the baked beans. Yeah. And then you went from the Apple Orchard up to Chongju …, Straight up without a fairly uneventful …. But, when we were there we wouldn’t entertain Asahi beer. Except that I fell in love when I was eighteen with a girl, and I thought, “This is the one.” Went to Korea. But, he was from South Korea. Oh, they were indoctrinated. And, that being the case, although. I don’t know. If you, on your way out have a look in that study and you’ll see, folder after folder. Because we used to sometimes, lie low between the graves. off we’d, we’d take their guns from them, yeah. Such as, with the mortar bombs, you wouldn’t hear much. Not like the North Koreans the mongrels but the Chinese were good fighters. Getting around, chasing the nurses and, pretty rough and ready. Still paying America back. During the war they were quite strange. But I was in hospital in Japan, back in Japan for about, three months I suppose. What kind of records would you have to keep? What do you think about their sense of Australia being used? What was the atmosphere like in the hospital? Another guy was, blown into a trench. I’m sorry the Chinese wanted this and wanted that. But they can’t re-live it if they’re talking to their family, about it. The Commanding Officer , yeah. “ No one knew. Yeah. North Koreans were in there. But we were never bombed or. Oh gee, I sobered up all right I was sick as a dog for about three days. Georges Lang, né le 16 novembre 1947 à Metz, est un animateur de radio et de télévision français. And then from there we went on up, further up north to, Pakchon. in and we got, we advanced in another direction. And Carlton and United walked out on them. I’ve been, to most places, many places in Japan. Every M6 driver head has been individually injected to reach the threshold of the maximum legal limit of ball speed. Even yesterday, our new President said “You’ve got to stop worrying.” I can’t help it. Hoping you can help. Colonel Charlie Green. Eventually they, started wearing suits. we’ll go, right back and talk about your childhood for a while and that sort of thing. North of New Guinea where there was a, prison camp there for the Japanese. Sir,” and he said, “Hummerston,” who incidentally was the first man killed in Korea, he said, “It’s a salute I’m after not a weather report.” Oh he was a pig of a man old Red Robbie, yeah. While we were there. Yeah yeah, I’ll go into some detail now. What what does it take to join up? I used to get a jeep now and then and, shoot up to our Battalion and, see a few of the guys, say hello. RTL TV was shown on Télécom 2B satellite from 1992 until the end of 1994, but encrypted. They would blow their trumpets and charge, ‘whoo!’ And, they, I think they had Burp guns too. Oh, you know, once once you know what it’s all about I suppose you know what to expect and you’re very, careful. But it was good, mm. Commander, who was British Army, he said, Walsh, you’re out, Ferguson, you’re in. And, I remember, in Korea, the night before we left there was a dinner on and there was an American guy there got up, on the, microphone and, he talked about, his killing of, Koreans and Chinese, when he was in, Korea. Then we went to Royal Park and got paid for our leave I had about two months leave, coming to me, yeah. And that was another meal, yeah. I think, I’m not sure. But it was a. mistake actually and it happened. But, we were glad to get back I can assure you. ‘Cause he, he used to shape up and think he was great. What was the, your impressions of the way, I guess the Japanese were living at the time? Oh they couldn’t understand it. Whereas we say, oh, we’re going out for tea tonight. It was, that sort of thing but, when you get home to, the guys who were, your mates before you joined the army and went to school with and knocked about with, it was different. Yeah. Oh gee. So describe this area where this Apple Orchard battle was fought. Landed in Sydney. I mean, anxiety state to me just means that I’m, on tenterhooks at times. of the Battalions for evacuations with helicopters and what have you. Interviewee: George Lang Archive ID 0647 Tape 07, Pretty rough fighters. Who knows? Hm. Just a great long, long line of them. Yeah. Well, the Americans, we got on all right with them and the Canadians. I, at the time, would have been eight. The M6-C™ artificial cervical disc offers an innovative non-fusion solution in treating degeneration of the cervical disc. Old Tommy Tunstall, he got a Military Medal in Korea. Early in the piece, a lot of the South Korean generals were only kids they were only young blokes who’d had no experience at 23 or something and they were made generals. He was sacred you know and, certainly weren’t allowed to, to go near it, weren’t allowed to even touch it and, the Japanese would just lie on the ground and bow and moan and carry on when he went past them. Manpower was nothing and the Chinese were worse. Yep. And that’s why he got sacked. we always, managed. The equivalent of it. Stinking hot in the summer. “You’ve been out with Big Tits Betty haven’t you?” And oh, she was an ugly looking, thing. You had to use all that sort of language. “If you’re going to stay down here you won’t live.” That’s that’s how it happened, it was pretty true, yeah. And I think the Argyles and Middlesex went before us and we went out last. The channel aimed to restore the fundamentals of the channel and capitalise on the presenters and launched a vast publicity campaign under the slogan "l'esprit de famille". This is what it’s like, ohh. The official reason for the change of name was a new youth focus to the channel (RTL9, c'est neuf ! Other than that, we didn’t, play basketball with them or, or you couldn’t play football ‘cause they wouldn’t have known how. So he was in, in two, North and South and he was a South Korean, student. and have a go at our planes and the American planes, whereas in the early days our planes had to leave from Iwakuni in Japan to go right up there and fight them. So basically, tell me what Hawthorn was like to grow up in. Yeah. But you couldn’t go too far because, you wouldn’t know what, what to expect up further up. 07/04/2021. Let’s say we had them released. She worked in a café in Swanston Street Melbourne, called The Criterion. And right up on, on top of the hill, and there’d be other hills surrounding the hill and, crests and ridges, and, they were all embedded everywhere, those, these monkeys. were in Kapyong Valley, they were the two avenues, down through to Seoul, from the ancient days when, Korea used to be, get invaded. So anyhow after that I just got, I moved around and around and around and. Life meant nothing to them. Peace Treaty. Because, I think the poorer people might not have had sewerage. Yeah. It was awful. Like an Aunt Sally or. Tell us about the lead-up to hearing the news that you were going to go to Korea. And so, you were saying the Apple Orchard was after you went to Pyongyang? Up until Pakchon. Because they didn’t have a repatriation system. He’s on Phillip Island. We came under the British, or the United Kingdom Ministry of Supply. But tea to them was 4 o’clock, mincemeat on toast. How it started. Less than one day. So mainly it was, eating straight from the tin. And later it became the BCFK [British Commonwealth Forces Korea] Base Hospital, British Commonwealth Forces in Korea where, the wounded were taken back too after they were, evacuated from, Korea. They reckon he was a great tactician, yeah. And then they, let South Korea have part of North Korea, over on the eastern side. And he got a Congressional Medal of Honour which is equivalent of our Victoria Cross. On the boat trip? But over there it was all right and, even in Korea, except, they were always bugging out and leaving us for dead. We also got a cap, which was, a, fur lined cap with the, top coming up in front. And, in so doing, if there was anyone, up ahead of you, well you saw everything that, was coming through and, I came out and I was purple. He’s had a bullet through the leg, in there and out there. A generation of new faces were first seen on the channel: André Torrent, Philippe Goffin, Bibiane Godfroid, Michèle Etzel, Claude Rappé, Anouchka Sikorsky, Jean-Luc Bertrand and Georges Lang. And, there was one beer hall in Japan, where, you could go and pick a girl up and, I got the word, not to go in there, or not to pick up a girl in there, and we passed this information on to a, few of them, you know and, one bloke was going down there on his own and, said, “Oh, look, you’ll see…”. And the people up in north were industrial people but, they didn’t have much left it was whoo. Oh sorry, okay let me start again. Well we’re coming close to the end so I might ask you, are there any, final thoughts or words that you have to say about your time and your service? The right way. So Walsh was sent back to Japan with his, highly polished boots and, fur coat. my, brother-in-law at the time, yelled out, “There he is, there he is!” And I was standing in the door and they turned around and, I jumped off and, my aunt came, rushing up to me and put her arms around me and poor Mum she was standing there, bewildered a bit and I headed straight for her and, put my arms around her and, then the whole family you know they were all there brothers sisters and, aunties and uncles. And, in Canberra, I’m on the Korean Veteran Mortality Study, and the Korean Veteran Cancer Study and the Korean Veteran Health Study. Yeah. He, he, absolutely resented them. He was the best. I mean you give your mate in the army your, last cigarette you’d break in half and give him half. They didn’t like the Australians they. and oh, had to go to Adelaide and I still didn’t know. Have they ever told you what it was like for their wife to come to Australia? They had the numbers, you know. Oh yeah, pretty, pretty strenuous yeah the whole, pretty hard.

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